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		<title>Comment on Two New(ish) Social Travel Tools: Everlater and Atlas Obscura by Laurel Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for letting me know - I hadn&#039;t seen that (or hadn&#039;t gotten there yet!). Good luck with Everlater. I hope it&#039;s going well for you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for letting me know &#8211; I hadn&#8217;t seen that (or hadn&#8217;t gotten there yet!). Good luck with Everlater. I hope it&#8217;s going well for you guys.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two New(ish) Social Travel Tools: Everlater and Atlas Obscura by Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, forgot to mention.  You can now embed an Everlater trip into a blog.  You should do that with your trip!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Two New(ish) Social Travel Tools: Everlater and Atlas Obscura by Nathaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review and sharing these apps!</description>
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		<title>Comment on What I Learned: A Spring Semester of Student Blogs by Laurel Hart</title>
		<link>http://www.laurel-hart.com/2010/04/29/what-i-learned-a-spring-semester-of-student-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurel Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Shariff. I&#039;m really glad that blogging surprised - maybe even surpassed - your expectations. And I didn&#039;t even mention your point about reading classmates&#039; blogs, but I think between that and Twitter, it seems like people got to know each other a bit more than they might have otherwise. I know I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Shariff. I&#8217;m really glad that blogging surprised &#8211; maybe even surpassed &#8211; your expectations. And I didn&#8217;t even mention your point about reading classmates&#8217; blogs, but I think between that and Twitter, it seems like people got to know each other a bit more than they might have otherwise. I know I did.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What I Learned: A Spring Semester of Student Blogs by Shariff</title>
		<link>http://www.laurel-hart.com/2010/04/29/what-i-learned-a-spring-semester-of-student-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Shariff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was a great evaluation. I think we did (at least I did) gain more from blogging than what I  thought initially. I feel more confident as a writer now and I am no longer afraid of people reading my writings. I also enjoyed reading my classmates&#039; blogs and seeing what great writers they are. This is definitely a class I will always remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was a great evaluation. I think we did (at least I did) gain more from blogging than what I  thought initially. I feel more confident as a writer now and I am no longer afraid of people reading my writings. I also enjoyed reading my classmates&#8217; blogs and seeing what great writers they are. This is definitely a class I will always remember.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SXSWi Speakers Wrap-Up: danah boyd by Laurel Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, you raise good points about the balance between groups gaining or losing when information is made public. I think an additional point that I got from the talk was that it&#039;s not always an either/or proposition, or one group gaining with another group losing, but a case by case determination. For example, she talked about her ability to criticize, debate or tell her story publicly, without facing many consequences. But, an immigrant in fear of deportation may not be willing to criticize or talk publicly for fear of losing the basic rights he or she holds here. In that scenario, one person&#039;s actions don&#039;t affect the other person&#039;s, but the two individuals may make different determinations of how much to share publicly based on their judgement of potential harms from sharing that information.

And the examples she used about teachers had to do with things like sharing dating information, photos of the teacher socializing or drinking with friends, religious information, etc. For many people still, teachers are &quot;Teachers&quot; both privately and publicly. danah asked if they are allowed to fully express themselves online publicly without fear of potential school or parental rebuke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, you raise good points about the balance between groups gaining or losing when information is made public. I think an additional point that I got from the talk was that it&#8217;s not always an either/or proposition, or one group gaining with another group losing, but a case by case determination. For example, she talked about her ability to criticize, debate or tell her story publicly, without facing many consequences. But, an immigrant in fear of deportation may not be willing to criticize or talk publicly for fear of losing the basic rights he or she holds here. In that scenario, one person&#8217;s actions don&#8217;t affect the other person&#8217;s, but the two individuals may make different determinations of how much to share publicly based on their judgement of potential harms from sharing that information.</p>
<p>And the examples she used about teachers had to do with things like sharing dating information, photos of the teacher socializing or drinking with friends, religious information, etc. For many people still, teachers are &#8220;Teachers&#8221; both privately and publicly. danah asked if they are allowed to fully express themselves online publicly without fear of potential school or parental rebuke.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SXSWi Speakers Wrap-Up: danah boyd by Peter Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the nice summary; I hope to be able to attend this event one day.

I&#039;m very interested in the point you make about one person(or group of people) gaining, and another losing when certain information is made public.  Do you believe clear lines exist in this balance or is everything judged on a case by case basis?

I automatically think of the numerous online registered sex offender databases.  This information is made public because society feels it mitigates against potential future harm to the community at large from a group often known to re-offend.  

Others argue that an individual who&#039;s been tried, convicted, sentenced and served time in prison like any other criminal, shouldn&#039;t be ostracized after already paying his or her debt to society i.e., it&#039;s unfair to single someone out for what they may or may not do in the future. 

I&#039;m of course not defending or equating sex offenders with any of the groups you mentioned, but when do the needs or rights of the many, outweigh the needs or rights of the few or one?  Always? (as Spock would say.)  Who makes this value judgement in the online world?

Also, not that I&#039;m challenging your point about teachers, but could you explain more or give an example?  I was trying to think of one but can&#039;t.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the nice summary; I hope to be able to attend this event one day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested in the point you make about one person(or group of people) gaining, and another losing when certain information is made public.  Do you believe clear lines exist in this balance or is everything judged on a case by case basis?</p>
<p>I automatically think of the numerous online registered sex offender databases.  This information is made public because society feels it mitigates against potential future harm to the community at large from a group often known to re-offend.  </p>
<p>Others argue that an individual who&#8217;s been tried, convicted, sentenced and served time in prison like any other criminal, shouldn&#8217;t be ostracized after already paying his or her debt to society i.e., it&#8217;s unfair to single someone out for what they may or may not do in the future. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m of course not defending or equating sex offenders with any of the groups you mentioned, but when do the needs or rights of the many, outweigh the needs or rights of the few or one?  Always? (as Spock would say.)  Who makes this value judgement in the online world?</p>
<p>Also, not that I&#8217;m challenging your point about teachers, but could you explain more or give an example?  I was trying to think of one but can&#8217;t.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Facebook Friend Requests: 6 Options by &#8220;Facebook Stalking&#8221; Is Dead, So Get Over It &#124; Forrest W. Kobayashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Facebook Stalking&#8221; Is Dead, So Get Over It &#124; Forrest W. Kobayashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Quiet Way by Laurel Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,
Yes, I think that&#039;s definitely part of it, confusing quantity with quality. I know in my experience it&#039;s taken me time to develop a more critical eye in who I respect and trust.

Also, in looking at this a few days later, I maybe should have clarified that I&#039;m thinking here about personal presence, not corporate or organizational presence. That&#039;s a completely different bag of worms, with different expectations for participation.

Thanks for your thoughts-
LH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,<br />
Yes, I think that&#8217;s definitely part of it, confusing quantity with quality. I know in my experience it&#8217;s taken me time to develop a more critical eye in who I respect and trust.</p>
<p>Also, in looking at this a few days later, I maybe should have clarified that I&#8217;m thinking here about personal presence, not corporate or organizational presence. That&#8217;s a completely different bag of worms, with different expectations for participation.</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts-<br />
LH</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Quiet Way by Peter Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this great post Laurel.  I can certainly identify with your premise and experiences (including soaking up plenty of Prairie Home Companion as a young child in Minneapolis).  As a New York City transplant, my elbows have grown slightly sharper, and my mouth a bit bigger, but I&#039;m still hardly an in-your-face type of person.

I think the majority of worthwhile, personal endeavors generally go unrecognized.  However, many of the people you mentioned do what they do for personal satisfaction without need--or expectations for accolades.  In fact, there seems to be an innate sense of humility that drives &quot;quiet types&quot; to act in the first place.

As people rush to claim an online presence and build a personal online brand, it&#039;s easy to confuse quality with quantity. I find bloggers whose material resonates with a small audience in a meaningful or personal way, much more appealing than people who post garbage in massive forums just to get their name out.

A person can come up in a Google search, but this still says very little about creating a meaningful presence.  When I Google my name, Peter M Moran, it comes up first because of a  book I reviewed on Amazon.com years ago.  This is hardly something I point to as a demonstration of personal achievement, as it required little more than an ability to form an opinion and type. 

I know your question is rhetorical, but my opinion is that the work and impact are indeed the rewards.  I know others disagree, but my opinion has always been to let your quality work speak for itself--in career, family, charitable efforts, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this great post Laurel.  I can certainly identify with your premise and experiences (including soaking up plenty of Prairie Home Companion as a young child in Minneapolis).  As a New York City transplant, my elbows have grown slightly sharper, and my mouth a bit bigger, but I&#8217;m still hardly an in-your-face type of person.</p>
<p>I think the majority of worthwhile, personal endeavors generally go unrecognized.  However, many of the people you mentioned do what they do for personal satisfaction without need&#8211;or expectations for accolades.  In fact, there seems to be an innate sense of humility that drives &#8220;quiet types&#8221; to act in the first place.</p>
<p>As people rush to claim an online presence and build a personal online brand, it&#8217;s easy to confuse quality with quantity. I find bloggers whose material resonates with a small audience in a meaningful or personal way, much more appealing than people who post garbage in massive forums just to get their name out.</p>
<p>A person can come up in a Google search, but this still says very little about creating a meaningful presence.  When I Google my name, Peter M Moran, it comes up first because of a  book I reviewed on Amazon.com years ago.  This is hardly something I point to as a demonstration of personal achievement, as it required little more than an ability to form an opinion and type. </p>
<p>I know your question is rhetorical, but my opinion is that the work and impact are indeed the rewards.  I know others disagree, but my opinion has always been to let your quality work speak for itself&#8211;in career, family, charitable efforts, etc.</p>
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